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Hurd is the daughter of Jamaican-American actor Hugh Hurd , and his first wife, German-American clinical psychologist Merlyn Purdy. She made her acting debut in 1989's Rude Awakening with Cliff DeYoung and Andrea Martin . Hurd's next film was the telepic Justice League of America (1997) alongside Miguel Ferrer , John Kassir , and David Ogden Stiers .

Hurd followed with 1998's Wilbur Falls costarring Sally Kellerman . The 20th century for Hurd concluded with a costarring role in 1999's romance drama Random Hearts joining Bill Cobbs and Susanna Thompson . In 2012, Hurd reunited with Andrea Martin in Girl Most Likely , which also costarred Padma Lakshmi . That same year was the Christmas telefilm Naughty or Nice with Googy Gress and Wade Andrew Williams . For 2015, Hurd took on Beautiful & Twisted with Jude Ciccolella .

Hurd's best known lead role on series television is as New York Police Detective Monique Jeffries on the Law & Order spinoff Special Victims Unit , only starring in the first season from 1999-2000 and sporadically in the second (2000). The series premiere " Payback " featured Ronald Guttman ; " A Single Life " counted Michael Nouri as a guest; " ...Or Just Look Like One " had Carolyn McCormick carrying her role of Doctor Elizabeth Olivet from the parent series as well as Todd Stashwick ; " Closure " with Olivia Birkelund ; " Bad Blood " with Ken Land ; " Limitations " with John Doman ; " The Third Guy " was directed by Jud Taylor ; " Misleader " with Robert Foxworth ; " Remorse " with Josh Pais ; and the second season premiere " Wrong Is Right " featured a return performance by John Doman. Hurd was written out of the show before the season concluded in 2001. In 2009, to launch the 8th season of CSI: Miami , Hurd lent her talents to the premiere "Out of Time", joining Brad William Henke and Angelo Tiffe .

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Hurd is known for her part as New York fashion photographer Laurel on the teen soap drama Gossip Girl in 2007 and 2008. Hurd appeared with Caroline Lagerfelt in the Season 2 premiere "Summer, Kind of Wonderful", as well as "The Dark Night" and "The Ex-Files", both with Mädchen Amick , all in 2008.

From 2014 to 2019, she appeared in eight episodes of Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci 's Hawaii Five-0 reboot television series in the recurring role of Renee Grover. From 2016 through 2019, she played the primary antagonist Shepherd on NBC's Blindspot .

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'Star Trek: Picard' Season 3: Michael Dorn & Michelle Hurd on How the Final Season Feels Like a Movie

Dorn also discusses how filming the action in 'Picard' compares to 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' & 'Deep Space Nine.'

Before Star Trek: Picard Season 3 premieres on Paramount+ on February 16, Collider’s Steve Weintraub spoke with returning stars, Michael Dorn , who was first introduced as Worf in Star Trek: The Next Generation , and Michelle Hurd , whose character Raffi Musiker originated in the first season of Picard . During their interview, Dorn discusses how filming action scenes in Picard compares to Star Trek: The Next Generation , how much time they spent with stunt rehearsals, how Picard Season 3 has a cinematic feel to it, and their character arcs.

Though the first two seasons of Picard were disappointing to some fans, Hurd calls Season 3 an “action-packed” “epic adventure,” with Patrick Stewart returning to the helm as the titular Jean-Luc Picard in a high-stakes mystery. The Next Generation ’s Gates McFadden also reprises her role as Dr. Beverly Crusher, as does Jonathan Frakes as Will Riker, Marina Sirtis as Deanna Troi, LeVar Burton as Geordi La Forge, Brent Spiner as Lore, and Star Trek: Voyager ’s Jeri Ryan as Seven of Nine from previous Picard seasons.

This season isn’t just about bringing back familiar faces, the show is also introducing fans to new talent, including Ashlei Sharpe Chestnut and Mica Burton as Sidney and Alandra La Forge and Amanda Plummer as the villainous Vadic. Others joining the fray are Todd Stashwick ( 12 Monkeys ) as Captain Shaw of the USS Titan, and new series regular and associate of Beverly Crusher, Ed Speleers ( Outlander ).

Check our conversation with Dorn and Hurd in the player above, or read the full transcript below. For even more on Star Trek: Picard , you can read Maggie Lovitt 's review calling it “the start of something new and exciting.”

COLLIDER: I want to start with – Michael, this is for you – [ Star Trek: Next Generation ] and [ Star Trek: Deep Space Nine ] are two of my all-time favorite shows. I want to thank you for all the hours you spent in that makeup chair to play Worf.

MICHAEL DORN: It was my pleasure.

I really want to start with congratulations. I've seen the first six episodes of Picard Season 3, they're fantastic. Fans are gonna absolutely love them. For both of you, what do you want to tease the fans about what's coming this season?

MICHELLE HURD: What do we tease? It's gonna be an epic adventure, action-packed for our story. What do you want to tease?

DORN: It is truly an arc – and I always loved arcs, and shows where it starts one place and ends up another place. We don't know where it's going. We hope it's a happy ending, but we don't know. That's the thing is that our characters are going to go through an arc, and I've always found that interesting, and I think the fans will too.

HURD: Well said.

Yeah, it's interesting because when Next Generation was on there was no season-long storyline. There were minor things. I want to talk about the action a little bit. I'm curious, how much time did you actually have before stepping on set to do some of your action scenes together where you could rehearse? I'm also curious, Michael, you've done action is Worf before. How did it compare now to years ago? Did you have more time now, less time?

DORN: More time. There was more time. I mean, we literally were there on days that we weren't working going through the scene. Because, the scenes on Next Generation were fairly short, and even on DS9 , were fairly short and very concise, but these were very long and involved and they were central to the story. So you couldn't really go, “Okay, just go over there and throw a dagger,” you know?

So, we had days where we would be – there was maybe one or two days where I was in makeup, but the rest of the time we were there, we were in our shorts and everything.

HURD: And that was our first time meeting, was doing stunt rehearsal. So we hadn't even done a scene together and that was how we first met.

DORN: And it was cool because there was…These stunt guys were just–

HURD: They’re amazing.

DORN: And I was kind of going, “Well, we'll see…” And then they showed a scene where I go in there, and there's my reveal, and I watched their preview and I went, “Oh my God.” So that was… It's quite different. Like I said, this was a movie. They shot it, not like a movie, but it feels like it was a movie. So you had time to really work on these scenes.

The season is 10 episodes. Which was your favorite of the 10, and why?

DORN: I haven't seen all 10.

HURD: Yeah, we haven't seen them all. You've seen more than we have.

DORN: I think I've seen five.

HURD: Yeah, I think we're five. Right?

DORN: But I have not I have not seen all of them yet. I know there were a couple of scenes that I really enjoyed doing with Michelle. There's a couple that are really, you know, lovely.

I was just going to say, I think 6 is fantastic, but it just keeps building right at the beginning. Michael, this is for you. What did it mean to play Worf again for the first time, I believe, in like 20 years? Did you ever think it was going to happen again?

DORN: No, no, I did not. I had an inkling it might when JJ Abrams was doing his Star Trek’s, because after our last movie it was dead. I mean, Paramount sold off all the Star Trek stuff, and they were done with it. And JJ came and said, “Look, I want to do a Star Trek,” and they went, “Okay.” But like we've said a bunch of times, you never say never anymore. But I looked at my watch the other day and it's been 35 years since I started.

HURD: Wow! That's impressive.

Star Trek: Picard Season 3 premieres on Paramount+ on February 16. For more on the show, here's our interview with Star Trek: Picard Season 3 showrunner Terry Matalas where he talks about creating a satisfying conclusion to Star Trek: The Next Generation .

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Michelle Hurd Talks ‘Star Trek: Legacy’ Hopes & Ponders ‘SVU’ Return

While Paramount+ has recently said goodbye to one Star Trek  series ( Picard ) and will be to another this year ( Discovery ), there are other projects coming — and one that fans and stars hope joins that list. So, of course, when TV Insider caught up with  Picard ‘s Michelle Hurd on the red carpet for Law & Order: SVU ‘s 25th season celebration — she left the NBC drama in its second season — we had to ask about possibly seeing her as Raffi again.

“I love Raffi. She’s my favorite character,” Hurd shared. “We have hands, fingers, everything’s crossed for Star Trek: Legacy . I know that right now they’re working on Section 31 for Michelle Yeoh . And then they’re going to do Starfleet Academy . That’s going to be a series. And then if the fans still want it, they’ll start working on Star Trek: Legacy .” (And if you’d love to see Hurd and Yeoh team up in the world of Star Trek , you’re not the only one: “Wouldn’t that be phenomenal?” Hurd said. “I need to make a phone call.”)

There had been talk of  Section 31 (as a series) for quite some time before what is now going to be a movie was officially greenlit in April 2023. In the movie, Emperor Philippa Georgiou joins a secret division of Starfleet tasked with protecting the United Federation of Planets and faces the sins of her past. And it was just before that, in March 2023, that Paramount+ ordered  Starfleet Academy to series . It will follow the adventures of a new class of Starfleet cadets as they come of age in one of the most legendary places in the galaxy.  Star Trek: Legacy is, right now, just a hope, of another series to continue telling the stories of the characters after Picard , but there’s nothing in development.

Hurd is also open to reprising her  SVU role, Monique Jeffries. “I would love to, obviously,” she told us. “I’m assuming that every actor that graces the stages of Law & Order would like to visit again. And it was my first series regular out of college. I feel like whenever I see pictures, I’m like, ‘Oh my God, that’s baby Michelle.’ And as an artist, I’d love to come back just because I’ve matured and you want to revisit a role and see what you can do and bring to life. Plus, I’d love to see where Jeffries would be, and it would be great to see she’s like a Supreme Court justice, or she’s a judge, or she’s a DA.”

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But since she loves playing perfectly imperfect characters, she’s also up to seeing that Jeffries “stumbled — just as long as we can see her stumble and succeed,” Hurd explained. “Because I’m also very conscious of the fact that I’m a woman of color and I’ve tried very hard to make choices in my career to represent women of color in a strong, empowering way, to let all the little brown and Black kids that are looking for representation see something on the screen and go, ‘Hey, I can do that. She’s doing it. I can do that.’ So I hope it would be something that it would be empowering so I can continue this journey that I’m trying to do of living a legacy of women of color.”

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Star Trek: Picard’s Michelle Hurd Shares Hopes For Raffi If That Legacy Spinoff Happens, And I’m Glad They Involve More Seven Of Nine

There’s still clamoring for Star Trek: Legacy to be made.

Last year, Star Trek: Picard came to an end after three seasons, but that doesn’t necessarily mean we’ve seen the last of its starring characters. Not only does it sound like Patrick Stewart is preparing to reprise Jean-Luc Picard for a movie , there have been calls from fans and Star Trek talent alike for a spinoff called Star Trek: Legacy to be greenlit . Michelle Hurd, who played Raffi Musiker for the entirety of Picard , is among this project’s supporters, and she shared her hopes for her character if Legacy happens, which thankfully involve more of Jeri Ryan’s Seven of Nine.

After meeting each other in Picard Season 1, Raffi and Seven of Nine became a couple prior to Season 2, then broke up before the events of Season 3, though they still cared for one another. Now these two are set to spend a lot more time together, as the Picard series finale’s ending revealed that Seven is still captain of the Titan, which has been rechristened the USS Enterprise-G, and Raffi is her first officer. While speaking with IGN , Hurd summarized her thoughts on how things stand between the characters as follows:

I absolutely think that Raffi loves Seven of Nine. I think she would be a happy person to just be on a journey with Seven, whether they're in a relationship or not. And I shouldn't say whether they're in a relationship or not. They are. They're in a relationship because they're in each other's lives.

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So as far as Hurd is concerned, whether or not things are still romantic between Raffi and Seven, these two are definitely still have a relationship going, and she wouldn’t have it any other way. As such, the Blindspot actress wants them to continue being by each other’s sides in Star Trek: Legacy . I’m with her on this 100%, because if Legacy moved forward and either of these women were missing, my interest in the spinoff would significantly diminish.

Along with Seven and Raffi calling the shots on the Enterprise-G, Star Trek: Picard ’s final episode, titled “The Last Generation,” saw Ed Speleers’ Jack Crusher, who’s now a Starfleet ensign, being named a special counselor on the ship. So Legacy already has quite the leading trio lined up, but with Raffi now specifically being in a command position, Michelle Hurd wants to explore how her character’s past struggles with addiction inform how she makes decisions that affect the wellbeing of an entire crew. In her words:

I really want to see how Seven, Raffi, and Jack Crusher navigate the universe, but I also think that it's important to continue to tell the journey of people who are or who have been addicts. Because once we have it, we're there forever. What’s a better way to put that pressure on her than to be Number One and know that she has a responsibility not only to her captain and somebody who she cares very deeply for, but to Starfleet as well?

Hurd then turned her attention in the interview squarely onto Seven of Nine, whom Jeri Ryan originally played on Star Trek: Voyager ’s latter four seasons. The actress welcomes the opportunity for the character’s queerness to be explored on Legacy without it needing to be front and center, and then used that as a springboard for how she hopes Legacy could point the spotlight on other underrepresented demographics, saying:

I think we could also continue to push and explore what it’s like having Seven of Nine as the first queer Star Trek captain without it being the focus. It should just be life and see how we navigate in it. Just like me talking about being dyslexic. I'd love for us to be able to reveal more of the things that people who look like they are presenting as ‘neurotypical normal’ are actually struggling with and going through. I think it would be phenomenal because you'll get an audience that is finally seeing themselves represented.

While our own Mick Joest theorized back in January that Star Trek: Legacy is already in the works , officially speaking, it’s hard to tell where things stand with the proposed project. Star Trek: Picard showrunner Terry Matalas admitted that the Picard series finale “wasn’t designed” to set up a spinoff , and Q actor John de Lancie doesn’t think such a show will happen . Still, there was a time when Star Trek: Strange New Worlds was simply a pipe dream among the fans, and it managed to become a reality. Maybe the same can happen with Legacy .

Rest assured that if Star Trek: Legacy does get announced, we’ll let you know about it as part of our coverage on upcoming Star Trek shows . Until then, stream Picard and the franchise’s other series with a Paramount+ subscription , with the exception of Prodigy , which is now accessible with a Netflix subscription . 

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The actress opens up about the all-new audio drama from Simon & Schuster

Join Star Trek: Picard star Michelle Hurd in the recording studio as she talks about the original audio drama No Man's Land : a fully-dramatized Star Trek adventure written and produced exclusively for audio, starring Michelle as Raffi and Jeri Ryan as Seven of Nine, plus a full cast.

Jeri Ryan and Michelle Hurd are joined in this full-cast audio dramatization by a host of talented actors playing all-new characters including a Romulan Warlord, a Fenris Ranger, various exotic alien species, and more. Among the extended cast are Fred Tatasciore (voice of Lieutenant Shaxs on Star Trek: Lower Decks as well as the voice of the Hulk/Bruce Banner in an extensive list of Marvel shows), John Kassir (best known as the Cryptkeepr on HBO’s Tales from the Crypt ), and John Cutmore-Scott (a featured character on the ABC series Deception ).

The No Man's Land script is written by Kirsten Beyer, a co-creator, writer, and producer on the hit series Star Trek: Picard , and Mike Johnson, a veteran contributor to the Star Trek comic books publishing program. Get your copy from Simon & Schuster Audio today !

Star Trek: Picard streams exclusively on Paramount+ in the U.S. and is distributed concurrently by ViacomCBS Global Distribution Group on Amazon Prime Video in more than 200 countries and territories. In Canada, it airs on Bell Media’s CTV Sci-Fi Channel and streams on Crave.

Star Trek: Picard's Jeri Ryan & Michelle Hurd Bring Their Romance to the 21st Century

Star Trek: Picard stars Jeri Ryan and Michelle Hurd talk about bringing Seven of Nine and Raffi to 2024 Los Angeles in Season 2 of the hit show.

One of the more welcome surprises in Star Trek: Picard Season 1 was how quickly and naturally a romance formed between the fan-favorite Star Trek: Voyager character Seven of Nine and Jean-Luc Picard's former first officer Commander Raffi Musiker. Brought to life by Jeri Ryan and Michelle Hurd, the two characters met towards the end of the season and showed immediate chemistry. Picard Season 2 starts with the two characters still operating self-sufficiently in their own corners of the galaxy while continuing their relationship. However, they are reunited when the omnipotent Q tampers with the timeline by altering history. Seven of Nine and Raffi, along with the rest of the crew, must travel back in time to set things right.

In a roundtable interview attended by CBR, Ryan and Hurd explained how they approached Raffi and Seven's relationship since the events of Season 1. They also teased how their characters react to what they encounter as they travel back to the past to restore the timeline in the new season.

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CBR kicked off the roundtable by asking Hurd and Ryan how quickly the two actors found their chemistry and what it was like to build upon it for Season 2. "Jeri and I are just two peas in a pod. We work really well together and I immediately just liked her. Who doesn't like her?" Hurd recalled with a laugh. "It was pretty easy for us to create a rapport and work on that relationship."

"That's definitely true," Ryan added. "We just had an instant chemistry. It helped that we have a similar working style. We just clicked, so that's easy."

Thanks to Q's tampering with the timeline, Picard Season 2 provides a version of Seven that is fully human. This version is free of the Borg's cybernetic implants for the first time since she was a young child. "That was a shock to the system, to see this character in a much darker version of this world without the Borg implants. It was something she has struggled with her entire life, reconciling her Borg half and human half," Ryan observed. "To see herself just as a human is a pretty cool moment for the character."

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Hurd hinted that the time-bending adventure and sheer stakes of Season 2's story will provide the ultimate test of Raffi and Seven's relationship and the deep respect they have for each other. She noted that both women are particularly "stubborn" in insisting on doing what they believe to be right. Despite this, Hurd believes the two characters would lean towards supporting one another, with Ryan adding they would do this while also "saving the galaxy at the same time."

Ryan explained that Picard Season 2 drops right into the middle of Raffi and Seven's relationship, months after the two met in the first season. The burgeoning relationship between the two characters is the subtext in the face of the timeline-shattering threat. Hurd elaborated that the two are at a place in their relationship where they're "not trying to find moments to snuggle" because "time has passed" since the first season ended. Hurd feels that inserting moments that overtly comment on the state of Raffi and Seven's relationship would appear intrusive to the story and "a disservice" to the characters.

" Star Trek has always, since The Original Series , held up a mirror to society," Ryan reflected. "It's what it set out to do." This  socially conscious message  is readily apparent in Picard Season 2, with the season going back to the year 2024 . "It's more clear doing that traveling back to the present day, how we're screwing it up and what we need to fix."

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With Star Trek: Picard currently only slated to run for three seasons, Hurd is open to reprising her role as Raffi should a spinoff series following her and Seven of Nine be greenlit. "I'll work on anything with [Hurd]," Ryan agreed. "She is just the most delightful person."

When they return to the present, Raffi is immediately affected by how polluted Earth is in 2024. She's also bothered by how little the planet seems to care for the more marginalized parts of the population, impacting Raffi's natural compassion and drive to fix things that are wrong around her. By contrast, Seven is more inherently relaxed after awakening in this alternate timeline, with the physical stigma from the Borg implants having been removed completely. Ryan sees Seven as "always the outsider," and the alternate timeline will change how she sees herself more than the simple cosmetic changes did. Her character will continue, however, to be an advocate and representative for the marginalized in Picard Season 2.

Created by Akiva Goldsman, Michael Chabon, Kirsten Beyer, and Alex Kurtzman, Star Trek: Picard Season 2 premieres March 3 on Paramount+.

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‘Star Trek: Picard’ Actress Michelle Hurd Hopes WGA and Studios Reach ‘Speedy Agreement’ in New Talks

Hurd tells TheWrap she hopes SAG-AFTRA will quickly follow “and we’ll all get back to creating the stories that we all love”

Now that negotiations between the WGA and AMPTP have resumed , one of the many questions that immediately follow is if and when the same will happen for SAG-AFTRA. Well, the actors guild’s Los Angeles VP and “Star Trek: Picard” star Michelle Hurd has “hope” that it will be soon.

Appearing at FanExpo Chicago on Saturday, Hurd explained to TheWrap that, at the end of the day, WGA needs to reach a deal before SAG even has a chance to consider things, so any movement is exciting.

“The bottom line is that we can’t go back into negotiations until they come to an agreement with the WGA,” Hurd said. “So this makes it, you know, as long as there’s actual true good faith bargaining happening, then that path to us getting back is closer, because they’re at that table.”

She continued, “And I’m the daughter of some civil rights activists. And my parents always say that you have to have hope. Because if you don’t have hope, there’s no tomorrow. So I have hope that we will come that they’re going to come to a speedy agreement, and that we are going to be next up.”

As far as exactly how long it’ll take for SAG to get their turn though, Hurd couldn’t say at this point. She does have a theory — but she would love to be wrong.

“You know, their playbook was they waited three months to get back to the table to the WGA,” Hurd explained. “On Monday, we’ll be in our first month of striking. So there’s a possibility that they might wait three months to get back to the table with us.”

She added, “But as I said, I have hope that it won’t take three months; that we’ll be back in the table, you know, negotiating soon, and we’ll all get back to creating the stories that we all love.”

For all of TheWrap’s WGA and SAG strike coverage,  click here .

Star Trek's Michelle Hurd Has A Black Belt And Wasn't Afraid To Use It In Picard

One of the mandates laid out by actor Patrick Stewart prior to the shooting of "Star Trek: Picard" was that the new Trek series not be a reunion special. He didn't want to return to "Star Trek" after 15 years (his last appearance as Jean-Luc Picard was in "Star Trek: Nemesis" in 2002) just to participate in an insufferably teary series wherein the cast of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" tiresomely get back on the bridge of the Enterprise-D and re-do everything they had done on the celebrated 1987 series. By the time the third season of "Picard" rolled around, the series resoundingly broke that mandate.

In the show's first two seasons, however, the showrunners had to innovate. Picard was no longer a starship captain, and his closest allies were not an official Starfleet crew. Indeed, the main characters on "Picard" were all free agents, with most of them actively resentful of Starfleet. Picard had to solve several dark mysteries with a rogue Starfleet cyberneticist (Alison Pill), a private starship captain (Santiago Cabrera), a Romulan ronin (Evan Evagora), a violent bounty hunter (Jeri Ryan), an ex-spy housekeeper (Orla Brady), and a former officer and recovering drug addict (Michelle Hurd). 

The last of that group was Raffaella "Raffi" Musiker, a bitter figure who still clung to shreds of idealism. She was bitter and affable by turns, struggling through her solitude, her former addiction, and the fact that her adult son hated her. She was also a woman of action, ready to fight and do violence at a moment's notice. Although everyone on "Picard" commits murder eventually. 

It seems that Hurd has always performed her own fight scenes, as she revealed, in a 2022 interview with TrekMovie , that she has black belt training she loves to display.

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When talking to TrekMovie, Hurd recalled an incident during the press tour for the third season of "Picard" wherein she feared she might have given away too many plot points that hadn't aired yet. She also indicated that she has been doing her own on-screen fighting for years. Hurd had previously appeared in the "Daredevil" TV series , "Ash vs. Evil Dead," the 2001 version of "The Fugitive," and the lesser-seen 1997 "Justice League" TV pilot (she played Fire). She's had plenty of opportunities for stunts. She said: 

"Not only on 'Star Trek,' but in general, I enjoy doing my own stunts. I'm a black belt in martial arts, and I love stunt stuff. And you know, at a certain point you won't be able to do it anymore, so I do them as much as I can. So I pretty much do all my stunts."

"Martial arts" is a little vague, and sadly Hurd did not elucidate which martial arts she was trained in. Back in 2013, however, Hurd was interviewed by the Baltimore Sun about her appearance in the crime drama "The Glades," and she was a little more explicit about her training and her interest in staying fit.

Raffi'll kick your butt

It seems that Hurd has always been keen on fitness, and not just for kicking butt. She also noted that she trained in both karate and judo. Karate, is more about sparring and fighting, whereas judo is about grappling, throwing, and pinning; it's an organized sport. As she said:

"Because I have this concept that your body is your temple. You want to go along in life and do all these things and adventures and have a great time, you need to respect your temple. I do everything I can to ensure everything inside and outside is as healthy as possible. I've been an athlete since I was a child. I did track and field for the Police Athletic League, then martial arts — first judo then karate. I've always been athletic. And exercise brings so much calm. I get into a zone. I would probably go crazy if I didn't work out."

Indeed, it seems that part of her martial arts training was getting a washboard abdomen. She explained:

"My abs are always a conversation topic. Got those at 16 when doing martial arts. My sensei made us do millions of situps and tons of core work. I developed those stomach muscles and they just stayed there. You have different ab muscles: upper, middle, lower, and both of your obliques. There are specific exercises for each one. I might go to spin and then do a 10- to 15-minute ab workout afterward."

Hurd's most recent credit is for an episode of "The Walking Dead: Dead City." No doubt she also got to kick some ass on that show as well. 

5 Great Lessons Star Trek: Discovery Learned From Picard Season 3

WARNING: Contains SPOILERS for Star Trek: Discovery season 5.

• Star Trek: Discovery season 5 takes a fun turn with space exploration, embracing the adventurous nature of Star Trek.
• Building on TNG and DS9, season 5 introduces new characters like Captain Rayner to shake things up.
• Discovery season 5 offers compelling villains like Moll and L'ak, adding mystery and tension to the galactic treasure hunt.

Star Trek: Discovery's fifth and final season learned all the right lessons from Star Trek: Picard season 3. Following the adventures of the USS Discovery and Captain Michael Burnham (Sonequa Martin-Green), Discovery has been many things throughout its four seasons. After the titular ship jumped to the 32nd century at the end of Discovery season 2, the show began exploring the Federation of the far future. While Discovery has often focused on dark and emotional storytelling, season 5 finally embraces the fun of space exploration. Between the latter half of Discovery season 4 and the first few episodes of season 5, the show has finally found a formula that really works.

Star Trek: Picard also told darker stories in its first two seasons, but Picard season 3 leaned more into nostalgia and fun. Admiral Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart) reunited with his Star Trek: The Next Generation crew for one last galaxy-saving adventure that involved big revelations and connections to the past. Picard season 3 became a resounding success , and many fans have been clamoring for the proposed spinoff, Star Trek: Legacy , ever since. Star Trek: Discovery season 5 seems to have learned a thing or two from Picard's success, and is shaping up to be the best season of the show thus far.

Star Trek: Discovery Season 5 Returning Cast & New Character Guide

Star trek: discovery season 5 builds on star trek's long history, both discovery season 5 & picard season 3 continued stories that began on tng..

The Star Trek franchise has been captivating audiences since the premiere of Star Trek: The Original Series in 1966, and with that comes a lot of history and lore. Star Trek: Discovery has always been connected to TOS , but Discovery season 5 has been building more directly on stories that were established in Star Trek: The Next Generation and Star Trek: Deep Space Nine . The main plot line of Discovery season 5 serves as a direct follow-up to TNG season 6, episode 20, "The Chase," and has sent Captain Burnham and the USS Discovery on a galactic treasure hunt.

Star Trek : Discovery's 32nd century finally feels more connected to the rest of Star Trek 's timeline.

As Burnham and Discovery search for the ancient and powerful technology of the Progenitors, they also seek to learn more about themselves and answer the biggest questions about life, itself. Discovery 's treasure hunt has already taken them to the planet Trill where Dr. Hugh Culber (Wilson Cruz) participated in a Trill ritual first introduced on DS9 . Aside from obvious connections to DS9 and TNG , Discovery season 5 has also included numerous shout-outs to previously established aliens and planets. Star Trek : Discovery's 32nd century finally feels more connected to the rest of Star Trek 's timeline.

Star Trek: Discovery Season 5 Embraces Nostalgia

Picard season 3 saw more returning characters, but discovery season 5 tells a classic trek story..

Not only has Star Trek: Discovery season 5 been building on established Star Trek history, but it has also embraced the nostalgia many fans have for TNG -era Trek in particular. Discovery season 5 may be set too far in the future to bring back characters like Star Trek: Picard season 3 did, but the show has still managed to feel more like classic Trek . Not only did the Discovery season 5 premiere show a photo of Captain Picard, but the episode also introduced a Soong-type android named Fred (J. Adam Brown), who bore a striking resemblance to Lt. Commander Data (Brent Spiner).

While Star Trek: Discovery season 5 still has many serialized elements, each episode also tells its own story, often taking Burnham and her crew to a new planet. In Discovery season 5, episode 2, "Under the Twin Moons," Captain Burnham and Mr. Saru (Doug Jones) find themselves under attack by automated drones, in a plot taken straight from TNG . Whether or not Discovery will have its own USS Enterprise-D moment like Picard season 3 remains to be seen, but the season has certainly leaned into its connections to the past more than any previous seasons.

Many of the new characters, like the android Fred and Captain Rayner (Callum Keith Rennie), wouldn't feel out of place on TNG or DS9.

Star Trek: Discovery Season 5 Introduces New Characters To Shake Things Up

Captain liam shaw & captain rayner have a lot in common..

Much like Star Trek: Picard season 3 introduced Captain Liam Shaw (Todd Stashwick) to challenge Admiral Picard and Commander William Riker (Jonathan Frakes), Star Trek: Discovery season 5 introduced Callum Keith Rennie's Captain Rayner to test the patience of Captain Burnham and Discovery's crew. After Rayner makes a bad call on Q'Mau in the season premiere, he gets demoted to Commander, and Burnham recruits him to be the USS Discovery's First Officer. When Lt. Sylvia Tilly (Mary Wiseman) pushes Rayner to get to know the crew, he pushes back, pointing out that he has more important things to worry about.

Like Shaw, Rayner has a gruff personality that doesn't quite gel with the rest of the USS Discovery crew.

When Michael first asks Rayner to be her Number One, she acknowledges that she needs someone who will sometimes challenge her. This will likely come up in the episodes to come, as Discovery gets closer and closer to the Progenitors' treasure. Rayner has already hinted that he has a past with couriers Moll (Eve Harlow) and L'ak (Elias Toufexis), and his main goal is to find them and stop whatever it is they're planning. Over the course of Star Trek: Picard season 3, Captain Shaw became a fan favorite as more was revealed about his backstory, and it seems likely that Rayner will get similar results.

Why I'm On Rayner's Side In Star Trek: Discovery Season 5

Star trek: discovery season 5 has compelling villains, moll & l'ak may not be as menacing as vadic, but they all have compelling backstories..

Star Trek: Picard season 3 introduced one of Star Trek's best new villains in Amanda Plummer's Vadic, a Changeling with a grudge against the Federation. While much about Moll and L'ak remains a mystery at this point, the hints that have been dropped about them are interesting and suggest they have a compelling backstory. Rayner seems to know more about them than he's letting on, and Cleveland Booker (David Ajala) has a connection with Moll that has yet to be explored. Moll and L'ak are Star Trek's version of Bonnie and Clyde, but it's possible an even bigger bad hired them to steal the Progenitor technology.

It's possible a more powerful threat could emerge before Star Trek : Discovery season 5 comes to an end.

With all the secrecy surrounding L'ak in particular, whose species is not even known, it's possible he could have connections to Star Trek's past that have not yet been revealed. Moll and L'ak may not have quite the menace of Vadic, but both villains have advanced technology and absolutely no interest in working with the Federation. The Borg Queen (Alice Krige) also made a return in Star Trek: Picard season 3 as the one pulling the strings, and with technology as seismic as the Progenitors' treasure, it's possible a more powerful threat could emerge before Star Trek : Discovery season 5 comes to an end.

Star Trek: Discovery Season 5 Is Fun

Picard season 3 & discovery season 5 both remembered that star trek should be fun..

And last, but certainly not least, Star Trek: Discovery season 5 is simply more fun than any previous season. The latter half of Discovery season 4 showed hints of this, but season 5 has embraced the adventurous nature of exploration. With desert bike chases and automated weapons and invisible aliens, each episode of Discovery season 5 so far has had a least one big, high-energy action sequence. Like Star Trek: Picard season 3, Discovery season 5 has also found time for humor and laughter shared among friends even when the stakes are high.

It's unfortunate Star Trek: Discovery is coming to an end so soon after it found a winning formula, but at least the show will end on a high note.

Captain Burnham and the Discovery crew have been through a lot since season 1, and Star Trek: Discovery season 5 is finally letting them have fun. They may have to keep the Progenitors' technology out of the wrong hands, but they still get to embark on a massive treasure hunt centuries in the making. Saru has found love with Ni'Var President T'Rina (Tara Rosling), Commander Paul Stamets (Anthony Rapp) is rediscovering his love of science, and even Tilly has gotten back in on the fun of it all. It's unfortunate Star Trek: Discovery is coming to an end so soon after it found a winning formula, but at least the show will end on a high note.

New episodes of Star Trek: Discovery stream Thursdays on Paramount+.

Star Trek: Discovery

Cast Blu del Barrio, Oded Fehr, Anthony Rapp, Sonequa Martin-Green, Doug Jones, Wilson Cruz, Eve Harlow, Mary Wiseman, Callum Keith Rennie

Release Date September 24, 2017

Writers Alex Kurtzman

Directors Jonathan Frakes, Olatunde Osunsanmi

Showrunner Alex Kurtzman

Where To Watch Paramount+

Star Trek: Picard

Cast Orla Brady, Michael Dorn, LeVar Burton, Brent Spiner, Jonathan Frakes, Jeri Ryan, Patrick Stewart, Alison Pill, Isa Briones, Evan Evagora, Marina Sirtis, Amanda Plummer, Whoopi Goldberg, Gates McFadden, Todd Stashwick, Santiago Cabrera, Michelle Hurd, John de Lancie, Ed Speleers

Release Date January 23, 2020

Writers Akiva Goldsman, Terry Matalas, Michael Chabon

Directors Terry Matalas, Jonathan Frakes

Showrunner Akiva Goldsman, Terry Matalas, Michael Chabon

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Michelle Hurd: ‘Star Trek: Legacy’ Will Happen “If The Fans Want It”

| January 24, 2024 | By: Anthony Pascale 114 comments so far

Fans have been talking about the idea of a “Star Trek: Legacy” spin-off of Star Trek: Picard since the series wrapped up last April, and members of the cast and crew have joined in. No spin-off is currently in development, but now one of the potential stars says fans could play a part in making it happen.

Fingers crossed for Legacy

Before her time playing Raffi Musiker on three seasons of Star Trek: Picard, Michelle Hurd had a long career in Hollywood, including a couple of seasons of Law & Order: Special Victims Unit . She attended a special SVU 25th anniversary event last week where TV Insider asked her about the chances of her returning to Star Trek. The actress made it clear she is ready to board the Enterprise-G:

“I love Raffi. She’s my favorite character. We have hands, fingers, everything’s crossed for Star Trek: Legacy . I know that right now they’re working on Section 31 for Michelle Yeoh. And then they’re going to do Starfleet Academy . That’s going to be a series. And then if the fans still want it, they’ll start working on Star Trek: Legacy .”

Hurd also told TV Insider she thinks it would be “phenomenal” to have a Star Trek team-up with Michelle Yeoh, who starts shooting that Section 31 movie next week.

For what it’s worth, Picard showrunner Terry Matalas shared the original TV Insider article with Michelle Hurd talking about Legacy on Twitter/X. The last we heard from Matalas was during the Trek Talks 3 Picard reunion panel on January 13th, when he said there was no spin-off in development but added “I wish, I wish.” He also revealed he is still talking about potential ideas with members of the TNG cast and added the hopeful note, “I don’t think you ever really need to fully say goodbye to any of these characters or storylines.”

Michelle Hurd as Raffi Musiker, Ashlei Sharpe Chestnut as Ensign Sidney La Forge, Mica Burton as Alandra La Forge and Jeri Ryan as Seven of Nine in “The Last Generation”(Paramount+)

Can fans make Legacy happen?

As for fans making a difference, campaigns for Star Trek are built into franchise history going back to Star Trek: The Original Series . Last year, a petition calling for Legacy garnered almost 64,000 signatures, over twice the amount that signed the petition calling for a Discovery spin-off set on Captain Pike’s USS Enterprise. A year after that petition launched, Star Trek: Strange New Worlds was announced. Fans also made their voices heard last year after Paramount+ removed Star Trek: Prodigy , flying a banner to “Save Star Trek: Prodigy” over the offices of Netflix (and others) in Hollywood, and by the end of the year, Netflix picked up the show, and the second season of the animated series is set to arrive later this year.

But fan interest is likely only one factor as Paramount Global faces more cost-cutting in 2024, including a new round of layoffs . Spending on streaming has been scaled back and we have already seen the impact on the original Star Trek series with Prodigy moving to Netflix and Discovery ending with its upcoming 5th season. As of now, Paramount+ is in production on a third season of Strange New Worlds and the Section 31 movie is set to begin shooting at the end of this month. The new YA-focused Starfleet Academy series is still being written but filming should start this year. The fifth season of the animated comedy Star Trek: Lower Decks is also in the works, expected to arrive later this year.

This is all in the context of larger corporate issues for Paramount Global as the debt-laden media company continues to be the subject of potential merger and acquisition interest, with the latest coming from private equity firm Apollo . In the meantime, Paramount+ is still trying to compete against other streamers by adding more original content, including new (non-Star Trek) shows and seasons ordered this month. At NYCC last October, Star Trek executive producer Alex Kurtzman said there was “a bunch of new things now in the works” beyond the previously mentioned projects, adding “there’s no shortage of support from Paramount Plus for the Star Trek universe.” So, even in these times of belt tightening, it’s possible Paramount+ could add another Star Trek project to their lineup.

Michelle Hurd as Raffi Musiker and Michael Dorn as Worf in “The Bounty” (Paramount+)

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Sorry, this fan does not want it. But I do like her character, and I am fine with a couple Legacy TV movies.

I’m vice-versa. I want Legacy, but never liked Raffi. I thought she had zero chemistry with Seven. The closest I came to liking her was when she was working with Worf, so I’d be on board with a Worf/Raffi “Star Fleet Intelligence” movie.

It was the writers fault for being too scared to given them some kissing and bedroom scenes. Matalas and the Picard writing team seems afraid to do that given DSC seemed to have no issue with those types of diverse romance scenes. So when the writers don’t give the actors much to work with, well of course it is going to be unconvincing if they are suppose to be a couple, but the writers have them instead acting like friends only. And they are both very attractive actors as well, so I am still mystified why we did not get to see more of their relationship — missed opportunity!

IMHO, I think that Discovery morphed into a progressive series targeting woman and gender minorities. Meanwhile Picard clearly targeted old-school legacy fans like myself especially S3 (even if it wildly missed the mark especially in S2) and SNW is targeting a broader audience of legacy traditional fans while still trying to broaden its audience to be more inclusive.

Just my two cents worth, but if some fans want to see the Trek envelope being pushed to the edge, Discovery did a good job within the confines of the Trek universe. That being said, I would definitely not expect the same from SNW or Star Trek Legacy, should it ever get greenlit. Really looking to S3 SNW but also intrigued by Discovery S5 and seeing what happens with Legacy.

Good points. From a marketing POV, this is a good way to expand Trek and also still service older fans.

Raffi 2.0 Season 3 was actually fun to watch. Season 1, too much/many emotions. Season 2, the Raffi Seven romance story line was not very well developed. It began as a joke between Jerry and Michelle, not an original idea from the writers, they had zero chemistry on screen.

I am glad Raffi got a good match with Worf. Those two are fun to watch together. She just needed a better character on her side.

I think it was brilliant to put these two together. Worf is awesome. Michael Dorn is so talented. This guy, everything he is in, it turn it to positive. Great stories for him in TNG. He rescued DS9. Good vibes all over.

Spot on. Great observations.

Surprising she was the only cast member from Season 1 and 2.

I absolutely hated Hot Mess Raffi the first two seasons and was hoping she just fall into a star or something. But season 3 finally made me see what an awesome character she could be and absolutely loved her relationship with Worf. They were so good together and also wouldn’t be against a Worf and Raffi movie either.

I mean wasn’t that kind of the point of the character’s arc in S1? She was supposed to be a mess. She’d been collateral damage in Picard’s moral crusade that ended up costing her career and while he had his family’s generational wealth and family business to wall himself up behind, she basically got tossed out on her ass with very little regard by either Starfleet or Picard. This is obviously just my opinion, but I thought it was a clever examination of both Picard and his righteousness and how he tends to favor that over the real-world consequences it could have for other people as well as Starfleet’s cold and bureaucratic nature. She ended up being correct about all the things she had pieced together in her suspicions about the attack on Mars and such and when she got jockied out of Starfleet, both Picard and ‘fleet left her broken with her (rightful) paranoia to go sit in her place in the desert.

My point is the character was just too unlikable for me. I didn’t have a problem she was flawed and trying to get her life back together, but she came off annoying and aggravating. And I never bought her relationship with Seven. It just felt really thrown in to me, another reason I didn’t like her.

But season 3, she still had baggage but was less annoying and just more fun. But every character looks like they are fun whenever you put them next to Worf! 😁

I’m on board with a couple of Legacy films as well, hopefully that might draw better/different writers to the table with fresh ideas. I’d watch a show too of course, but SH’s track record with me is shaky at best when it comes to episodic work.

As to Raffi’s character, the only time I really enjoyed her was during S3. Imo, that’s when the character was written in a compelling way, and she and Dorn did play off each other wonderfully.

Oh yeah totally onboard with Legacy movies too! I’m not very picky lol.

I agree NuTrek has been very very shaky to say the least, but even I admit, one of its biggest NuTrek haters since 2009, has really grown to like a lot of it: especially LDS, PRO and SNW. I know you’re not big fans of those shows although I think you like SNW, at least the first season.

But to this day, for me Picard was really the only show I was genuinely excited about and when that failed for me I was convinced I wasn’t going to like anything these guys made. But I’m happy that didn’t turn out to be the case even if it’s still nowhere as great as TOS and 90s Star Trek IMO.

I’m a fan of PRO, which surprised me quite a bit given the age-group it was aimed at – I’ve found SNW kind of hit-or-miss, but like it overall. LDS I’ve had trouble getting into, going to try it again. As to Pic S3, I feel the same – Matalas hit a home run there, imo. Would be happy to see a Legacy production. But overall, I just feel Trek would be better-handled by other creatives.

Totally get you! I’m happy you like Prodigy, it is a really awesome show. I didn’t think I would like it at all and it was the complete opposite.

I would still try to give LDS another chance but my own girlfriend hates it so you may agree with her lol.

But it’s winning her a little bit. She watched the episode with Moopsy a few weeks ago and fell in love with it. She couldn’t stop laughing every time it said Moopsy. But it’s still her worst show in Star Trek by far lol.

But you may like it!

I think ultimately we’re getting a movie spin off for Paramount Plus featuring Picard characters, probably following Section 31’s completion. I doubt we’re getting an actual series, unless the first film does well enough.

Right now Legacy only exists in the tweets of a handful of talented people.

I’d go so far as to say it really only exists in Terry Matalas not so fertile imagination. Everyone else are hangers on.

Do you need someone to explain how TV shows are made?

I want a 25th century show. I am sick of prequels and the DISCO era. But I don’t think Legacy is what I want. Would love to have Seven back but don’t really care for any other of the Enterprise G new crew enough and We don’t need a second TNG spinoff. TNG guest starring would be OK.

I hear you. For myself, I want “TOS Continues” at some point which would cover the period from Mission Year 3 to TMP.

At some point down the line, I would like a complete reimagining reboot that starts Star Trek all over.

Agree about more prequels, hard pass. As you know I did love those characters in Picard, especially Shaw and Sydney. Don’t really care about Jack at all either though.

I just want a 25th century show starring Seven. When it comes right down to it, that’s my biggest appeal. And we now have two black female Captains with Burnham and Freeman and Janeway is back commanding the Voyager A so let’s break the mode and bring in a gay Borg female Captain too! 😄

I’m ok with movies and would love to see her again but I have no interest in watching old tng senior citizens saving the universe.

Since it’s not about the actual TNG cast and about Seven and the younger bridge officers, then that’s not a concern. Matalas said in about 20 interviews the show is about the next next generation. I don’t understand how this keeps getting missed over and over again?

I would look forward to a Legacy series. I think the problem are those people who either want TNG 2 (with Riker as the lead), or had problems with the class of the Enterprise-G (should have been the Ross-class, but redubbed as the Galaxy-II class, with the three nacelles, with Riker as “Captain”, IMO). But, regardless, I know that those like Matalas can pull off a decent series.

Love her, LOVE – HER!!! Ben a fan going back all the way to the JLA pilot (I know, I know, LOL!), Law & Order, The Glades, etc. Her work with the strike was phenomenal and I’d love to see a Raffi/Worf series or at least a movie adventure!

I wanted it up until that Enterprise-G disgrace. I don’t really nitpick but this one I personally really can’t.

I have to admit I really do hate the Enterprise G as well. It just looks and feels awkward. It’s the same way I feel about the Cerritos and Discovery as well but I grown to like the Cerittos at least.

But the G doesn’t really do it for me either. Especially when you compare it to geougous E. Now that’s a ship I can watch all day long.

I generally dislike most of the newer ship designs in Trek. It looks like sometime after 2015 Trek forgot to do good ship design. It’s ironic as I considered both classic and TNG era shows and movies to have superior and more elegantly designed ships when compared with other space based shows or movies like BSG, Stargate or Star Wars. But recently most of the ship designs in Trek have been boxy and inelegant to say the least. To use a car metaphor they used to look like Toyotas but now they are starting to lool more and more like Volvos. The Japanese elagance of design paved the way for the tanky, boxy, square or rectangular looks of the Volvo.

Have to agree as well. Haven’t been in love with hardly any of the newer ships in NuTrek and that includes the Kelvin Enterprise. It just came off too big and bulky looking and always hated the Apple bridge look. I still think Discovery is the ugliest ship ever made though. I don’t know what Fuller was thinking?? It’s grown on me some but still don’t love it. Still not a big fan of the Cerritos either. It’s a more work horse ship but never liked the Miranda style design in general. The Enterprise G is really lacking as well. Matalas seems to be so in love with it, but I just don’t see why? It beats the La Sirena any day of the week though. Boy that was just…ugh.

The only ship I did fall in love with on day one was the Protostar from Prodigy. That feels more like a ship from the old shows and closer to the E-E/Voyager design of yesteryear. And the Voyager A looks like it will be as beautiful as its predecessor based on the little we seen so far.

I really liked the Stargazer and am still disappointed Picard Season 3 wasn’t set on that ship. Never cared for the Titan at all. Far too retro.

I forgot about the Stargazer. That was a really good one too. I prefer it over the Titan/E-G.

Yeah I don’t know what happened and why we lost all the cool looking ship designs. They just started to look really awkward and ugly. I originally hated the NX-01. Just felt lifeless to me. But then that felt like a masterpiece after the JJ prize and Discovery entered the picture. Just really badly designed ships.

And I don’t think the JJ prize was that bad, but compared to the Enterprise A it was no contest. That thing is amazingly beautiful. But the E is still my favorite out of all of them.

The old shows and movies just does it much better than the new stuff today although I do like some of it including the new Enterprise on SNW and the Protostar on Prodigy, but still not as good as the past.

I think one reason for this “reduction” in the quality of ship designs in the modern shows might be that the ships are not considered as important as the characters anymore. Back in the day the ships used to be a character on their own even the Defiant in DS9 which wasn’t a ship based show. It seems like the new producers of Trek want the viewers just to concentrate on the characters instead of the technology or the ships. The best part of the previous series was that both aspects weren’t mutually exclusive. We had good characters and good ships. Now its questionable if we have both.

That’s a really good point. What I definitely miss about the old shows.

I mean its a bit ironic considering the fact that what made me a big fan of Trek in the first place was that awesome Enterprise A flyby in The Motion Picture. I hadn’t seen anything like that before in any science-fiction I watched (Star Wars and Stargate) but that grandeur, that epicness of the visuals, the awesome Goldsmith music. I doubt we’ll ever get another scene like that ever in Trek and its sad really. Now that I look at, at this day and age I probably wouldn’t have been as big of a Trek fan as before. But then this is me and awesome technology appeals to me a bit more than the characters. I can understand if other people only find the characters or the aliens appealing.

“IF the fans want it“?? There has been a record breaking historical petition of the question IF. I guess that part has been answered clearly.

Huh? It got a paltry 63,000 signatures, which isn’t even 10% of the number of fan petition number that Paramount received from fans in the late 1960’s which got TOS a 3rd season. And that petition was people actually taking the time to write and mail letters — much more time consuming that a simple internet poll. If anything, the Legacy petition shows that, at best, a relatively modest number of Star Trek fans want this series…and Paramount can see that. That petition kind of failed…my opinion.

So, no Legacy series…perhaps though a movie or two though, or maybe a drama podcast like NM is working on for the Khan story — given that’s how they are handling the lesser, but still desirable story ideas like S31, for example — Legacy would fit in that category. I actually like the audio drama route for this given the age of some the actors at this point, particularly Stewart.

The petition for a Pike show back in 2019 got less signatures than Legacy has.

It’s an apples and oranges comparison and has to be looked at in relation to the number of viewers of Star Trek today compared to the 1960s as it relates to those 63,000 signatures. Star Trek Voyager debuted to just over 21 million viewers, Discovery debuted on CBS with an audience of just over 9 million. That reflects a diminished audience. The focus for streaming is total number of minutes streamed but only streamers know how many actual viewers there are from week to week for each series.

There’s a different metric for success on Paramount+ and the same can be said for those 63,000 signatures.

I hear you and Benjamin, but I still remain kind of underwhelmed when hearing that 63,000 signatures on a very easy to quickly fill out online petition is “all that”.

I mean, you have obscure sf petitions on the web you can find, like “Have Disney strike Star Wars Episode VIII from the official canon” that get six-figure responses.

SNW got a petition without about half as many signatures. Whether Paramount actually responds to petitions is anyone’s guess but the idea of SNW was something that registered with studio. It was also given the green light at a time where budgets were secondary.

Had Picard season 3’s storyline been season 2’s storyline, I don’t think the Academy series would have moved forward. With limited resources, the numbers would have been there for Legacy whereas the Academy series has to build off declining viewership for Discovery. It’s always a numbers game.

Also, Star Trek is not Star Wars.

For stuff like MCU, Star Wars, etc that’s probably peanuts because their base is humongous compared to Trek. That’s why the first Kelvin movie made around $400 million and the first Star Wars sequel movie made around $2 billion lol.

So for Star Trek it’s just a much much smaller fanbase, but pretty impressive considering. And more so that it got twice the number of signatures that SNW did.

Denny Crainium, you can bet that most of the Pike signers were younger than the Legacy signators. Paramount + wants young viewers, not the geriatric crowd. And I’m not being ageist, BTW – I am a senior! It’s just a reality that needs to be acknowledged.

You write a lot about something you don’t like.

Yep! The most signed petition since NuTrek started in fact. Legacy always trend in places like Twitter (I refuse to call it X) anytime there is news about it and people just sound generally positive about it just like they did when Picard was announced.

It doesn’t mean every fan on the planet wants it since Trekkies can’t decide on most things lol, but obviously many many do want this.

I would just love to see my girl Seven Captain of the Enterprise. I don’t think I ever thought that would happen and here we are! 😎

Thank you Matalas… thank you!

I want this series on board the awesome constitution lll uss enterprise-g with capt seven of nine and her lover/partner and first officer raffi and ensign jack crusher/picard

Don’t want it.

great actor i love that she has layers

I really hope Section 31 is the movie about traveling to the past, present, and future. I think this is one of the ideas that Fuller originally wanted for Discovery. So much potential.

The are so many time travel stories. And all are fun to watch. Sisko going back meeting Kirk was amazing due to the great special effects and original story. All the Voyager time travel episodes were very good back then, and still fun to watch today.

The possibility to connect Georgiou with Archer and his crew. A big story with characters from all previous/current shows is something we all could enjoy as long as they have a solid concept/idea.

Would like very much to see live action characters from Prodigy and Lower Decks. Even Mirror Georgiou could bring back the impossible….people who deserve more screen time…I always wanted Janeway to rescue Prime Harry. Not honorable deaths. How about Trip? Prime Georgiou? Hugh? Icheb? Shatner Kirk? (If someone can convince Shatner, of course). :D Just throwing ideas, possibilities, Section 31 could bring together favorite characters who may not have a chance in any of the upcoming shows.

These Actors would like very much to join if they have a chance, and I know fans also would like to see them again, of course, with a valid reason along with a good story.

Wow Jay you read my mind! :D

Like you, I’ve always loved all of Star Trek time travel stories. I can’t get enough of them. It’s a big reason why Prodigy is currently my favorite new show because of Chakotay being stuck in the 25th century. I’m really excited to see how they will play with that angle next season.

As for Section 31, if they go BIG and make it a time travel story it could be tons of fun. We could go back to the Enterprise days and run into Archer and the gang as you said would be amazing. Maybe he’s already President of the Federation. Or she can go to the 24th/25th century and run into Riker, Janeway, Dax, Bashir, whoever. And the Guardian of Forever can tag along!

Also love your idea about seeing more LDS and PRO characters in live action. It’s funny I remember having a big debate with someone here about the LDS feeling out of place if they were made live action. But once they did it, no issue at all lol. So it opens the door for more appearances. Would love to see a live action Rok and Murf as well! :)

Yes. Absolutely. Few years ago, I think we have exchanged similar ideas, Tiger2. I am always thinking about a whole new show or movie to be about time travel. They can continue with all the time travel events that were not fully developed.

They can connect the dots, merge old/new shows or movies, and bring our beloved characters back.

No matter what direction they take, I really look forward to watch Michelle Yeoh and Section 31.

Most fans definitely seem to want it! It has twice the amount of signatures on the petition that SNW got lol and many fans wanted that too.

I love LDS and Prodigy, but this show could be the show that would make me the happiest…if it’s good. That’s how I felt about Picard until I actually saw it. 🙄

But season 3 finally gave me the Star Trek I been begging for since 2001. And I think Matalas just ‘gets it’ and would just be great to lead another show even if it’s not Legacy.

Give us Legacy Paramount! I know you can’t afford it right now but this is the direction a lot of fans want to see and that is more 25th century Trek. 😎🖖

“But season 3 finally gave me the Star Trek I been begging for since 2001. And I think Matalas just ‘gets it’ and would just be great to lead another show even if it’s not Legacy.”

Well said, TB1701. Lower Decks and Prodigy also brought back continuity to the Berman era. But Season 3 is exactly where many fans have wanted to be for a long time. A live action show in our Star Trek “present” time.

Thank you my friend! 🙂

I have always said for me 24th century Trek is where my heart lies as a long time fan. It doesn’t mean I don’t like other shows like Enterprise or SNW, but I’m just more invested personally to see more stories go forward, not backwards. I think most fans are even if they don’t want Legacy itself. But I know others like prequels too of course, I just never really cared for them at all.

TNG, VOY, DS9, PRO, LDS and Picard season 3 is my core Star Trek. I like how they all feel so connected to each other being in roughly the same period and so many of the legacy characters have crossed over or even leading the new shows. It is not just a great extension of Berman Trek but makes up the bulk of all of Star Trek today. I will live if we don’t get Legacy of course, this is really enough Star Trek to last me a lifetime lol. I was just happy to have TNG, DS9 and VOY to watch again and again until Picard came along.

But we’re fans, we always want more! 😉

“It is not just a great extension of Berman Trek but makes up the bulk of all of Star Trek today.:

Just thinking about this, but between TNG-VOY, that is already around 500 episodes, maybe 510 to be more exact. When you add in PIC, LDS and PRO current count, that’s another additional 90 episodes. When PRO season 2 and LDS season 5 premiere this year that will be another 30 episodes between them bringing the total to 120 of 24th/25th century Trek and 630 episodes in total. A bit more so when you add in the four movies.

That is a lot of 24th century stories! And it easily being my favorite era too, that’s pretty exciting. Maybe when both LDS and PRO finishes this season, it might be fun to solely do a 24th/25th century marathon in chronological order with so many new shows and episodes into the mix. Just start with TNG and end with Picard.

And if we get Legacy to add to that one day, then the sky is the limit. :)

Absolutely!!! 😎

For us 24th century fans we have a lot more content today and it’s actually good content too. And I wasn’t asking for multiple shows to go back to the 24th century, I just wanted one show lol. If they had other shows take place in other centuries like the 23rd century again or something new like the 26th century, that would’ve been cool.

But Trek really has expanded its mythology in the 24th century and where they gave us so many awesome new characters, stories and aliens. Most of us wanted to keep it going and keep building on it. That’s why so many want Legacy now of course.

So I complain a lot less these days because we’re not just back in that era but getting quality shows with it thanks to Mike McMahan, the Hageman brothers and Terry Matalas. These guys have redeemed my faith in Star Trek.

YES! More 24th-25th century Trek!

1) I want Legacy. 2) Raffi, while not my favorite character, is fine, and she’d be welcome. 3) No one wants a Section 31 show/movie (though Michelle Yeoh is a fine actor). 4) No one wants an Academy show/movie. 5) Why does Paramount keep going to the prequels instead of moving forward?

I would like to see Legacy IF they do the following:

• Carpet those decks
• Does the bridge need to be that huge? So much empty space!
• Budget for proper lighting, please. (I mean, even the 1701-D looked dim in Picard S3!!) Give me that JJ Abrams literally bright future!
• Don’t engage in too much blatant fan service – cameos have to mean something
• Don’t saddle Raffi with reams of expository dialogue. That was my biggest peeve about the writing in all three seasons.

I want one Section 31 movie, at least. Trek is big enough that it can contain multiple genres, and spy-fi action is something that hasn’t really been explored. (Hire Paul Greengrass to direct!)

An Academy show is something that I can see as appealing to YA audiences. It’s also something that is “moving forward,” because it’s taking place in the 32nd century when they’re rebuilding the Academy, reuniting the Federation, commissioning new ships, and so on, in a world that has changed a lot. It’s a good framing device, because the recruits are from that time, but Tilly’s still from the 23rd century, so she’s our “in” into that landscape.

Who knows why Paramount does what it does, but media corporations are conservative with creative IP, because they don’t want to alienate audiences with unfamiliar stuff. I mean, a real sci-fi take would be Trek’s version of Annihilation or Ex Machina, but at most they could relegate that to a one-off episode, a movie would be a harder sell.

I don’t care about the CW Starfleet Academy show at all but it is good it’s going forward being in the 32nd century. I want to like that period more but Discovery has drained all the appeal out of it for me.

Maybe the Starfleet show will actually make it exciting and fun… maybe.

I’m OK with a Section 31 movie. Still don’t care about Adolf but if they actually use her in a great way my mind can change on her, but it certainly didn’t after 3 seasons of Discovery. 🙄

And I really do like Michelle Yeoh, but the character sucks. Maybe the movie will make me more of a believer.

But I’m totally with you on the prequel thing. Most fans are sick of prequels. It’s why so many hated Enterprise and Discovery. Not the only reasons but a big part of it. SNW is different but that’s because it’s fun to be back on the original Enterprise and just a decent show overall. I really do like it when I hated everything else including JJ verse. Something else we didn’t need.

But nearly every fan I talk to online wants more shows and movies to go forward including here. So I don’t really get it either.

Even the new movie they just announced and will probably be dead in six months is another prequel. A lot of people think Archer could be in it and maybe President of the Federation though since it sounds like it’s decades before TOS and I’m a little more curious about it if that is true. But we don’t really need this either.

Come up with new ideas Paramount. Stop going to the past, we already know what happened there

I’m going to change my user name to No One, since gatekeepers keep speaking on my behalf on what I want and don’t want.

Yea, it’s nuts, and they don’t seem to get how foolish this makes them look…lol

1) Bring on Legacy! 2) Raffi started off great in S1, and it seemed like they just didn’t know what to do with her in S2. I couldn’t really “care” about her relationship with Seven, because it happened off screen between Seasons 1 and 2. In S3 they finally figured out how to expand upon Raffi’s character development they started in Season 1. 3) No one wants? You don’t speak for everyone, that’s presumptuous. 4) See above. 5) Agree on the prequels … although we really don’t know where S31 is going to land. We can assume Georgiou ends up back in her original prime starting point (in the original DSC/SNW era), but I’m hoping the Guardian of Forever will jump her around a bit.

1) Same. I want Star Trek Legacy more than any other Star Trek project. For me, it’s about going forward, but continuing with past characters. I love that we could a captain that we were able to witness her complete origin and tremendous arc. I want a Captain Seven, Ensign Jack Crusher, “Crash” La Forge, on the Enterprise-G, with an Admiral Riker assigning missions on a few episodes. 2) Yeah, I would begrudgingly be ok Raffi, but I would rather not have her on the show. 3) Agreed. But this is Alex Kurtzman and Akiva Goldsman AND Paramount execs hope to get more of an international audience. But I really am tired of how they trampled on the Section 31 concept from DS9 and wish they just give it a different name. 4) Agreed again. But, it is an attempt at finding a new audience. Not me, though. I do wish to watch an Academy show in the Disco future. 6) Not sure. But I want a Legacy show to move forward with the story line of the that universe! What is happening with the Klingons? The Bajorans? I want to see NEW alien cultures and designs, and not just one-offs. I am tired of prequels.

Agreed 100%!

“ No one wants a Section 31 show/movie (though Michelle Yeoh is a fine actor).”

So far, several of us in response to your posts have now said that we want the Section 31 movie.

YOU HAVE THUS BEEN PROVEN FACTUALLY WRONG ON THIS

1) Yes, I too want Legacy! Make it so!!!!!

2) It’s weird but I originally loved Raffi when she was introduced in season one. But by the end of it, she was just annoying. Season 2 made her even worse! But season 3, she was great and would love to see her back on the show as Seven’s Number One. Matalas did a great job redeeming her.

3) Again,a little weird but I was originally excited about a Section 31 show. I think there were about six of us who wanted it lol But then I saw their version on DIS and lost all interest. And I never been a big fan of Georgiou. But now that it’s just a TV movie, I’m more interested in it. :)

4) I am actually cautiously excited about the Academy show. Part of it just seeing a different side of Starfleet we only got small glimpses of before. But it’s really the 32nd century angle of it I think will make it interesting for me. If it took place in the 23rd or 24th century, I would be less interested in it. But I can understand for people who think Discovery sucks and don’t like this as an extension of that show. I’m just happy it will have a different show runner at least an hopefully be MUCH better.

5) I notice this is something most fans are sick of and for the record I am too. Now I’m not COMPLETELY against more prequels, but I always prefer to go forward as well. But I do think it was a mistake doing so many at one time and just burned people out. When ENT started, I had NO interest in the show at all because it was a prequel and a big reason I stopped watching it. But I understood why they wanted to go a different way at the time . And the birth of the Federation premise sounded interesting at least. Unfortunately they didn’t really get to it in a more timely fashion and squandered it.

When we got the Kelvin movies, I had he exact same feelings. It just didn’t appeal to me personally. I never cared to see a TOS reboot and I been a fan since the seventies. It just wasn’t for me. BUT, I understood why they did it and I had to admit it was brilliant marketing wise and a way to get back to where it all started to breath new life into the franchise. But like Enterprise, they had an interesting premise they basically squandered after the first movie and both old and new fans just lost interest. Eight years on now tells you all you need to know. I’m convinced we’ll get another season of Enterprise before another Kelvin movie. And I’m OK with that. ;)

And finally, Discovery. Now this is the one I felt was a huge mistake to make a prequel out of. After Enterprise and the Kelvin movies, fans were just eager to move forward again and get some settings, aliens and stories. They finally got the message and threw DIS in the future but I think it was a little too late in terms of DIS reputation in general.

Now of course we have multiple shows going forward again, so I’m happy with that. And I really do like SNW too. But I don’t think people are begging for more of that either.

Yep, I lost interest in Trek personally after Enterprise, JJ verse and Discovery. It was going backwards too much. I know we talked about this before and it wasn’t a grand plan to keep making prequels but someone should’ve realized by Discovery people wanted to go forward again. It was just getting really tired. 🙄

I really wanted a show to just continue in the TNG era like Picard did. Just be 10-20 years after Nemesis and with new characters with a few old ones popping in at times. We finally got it but the show has been lacking sadly.

My second choice would’ve been to have a show start a hundred years after Nemesis in the 25th century with brand new stories and maybe we see the Federation in a different place.

We got that too with Discovery but instead of 100 years later it’s 800 years later lol. I still think the show is awful but it was great to see a show really go forward and beyond everything we know. That’s what Star Trek needs more of.

I too originally wanted a show to basically go forward like we got in Picard, ie, go the number of years past Voyager in real time, which was 15+ years. It didn’t mean I just wanted more TNG characters again, no, I was happy with brand new characters just like what we got when DS9 and VOY premiered. It would follow some of those story lines and maybe have a character from TNG or VOY pop up the way we saw TOS characters show up, but it would be its own thing. Actually kind of like LDS now that I’m thinking about it with a totally new crew but Riker or Paris may show up in an episode, etc.

Oddly we are now getting it so my work is done lol.

I also liked starting in a new century as well. Just start over 1-200 years post Nemesis. In fact I think majority of fans really wanted to start completely fresh in a brand new century and the canvas could be anything the writers wanted.

While I love SNW, LDS, PRO, and I’m very excited for S31 and Academy, bring on Legacy. If they don’t want to take the risk on a continuing series, make it a three or four episode “mini-series event” to gauge interest.

I will say though I do not think anything else will get officially announced until the merger either goes through or is squashed.

As usual we agree iMike!! 😄👍

I think they would make Legacy in a heartbeat but this is no longer 2020, Paramount+ is losing money big time and they can’t afford to throw 5 Star Trek shows on anymore. But if they were happy how well Picard did then it would make total sense to continue it in Legacy.

I just think they are too broke personally and another reason they cancelled Discovery prematurely and they can’t get another movie off the ground.

But maybe you’re right, we will get some head way on it once the merger happens with whoever.

While I enjoy Paramount+ for a lot of shows outside of Star Trek, it’s clear they bit off more than they could chew. Maybe in addition to giving Netflix back the rights to international streaming, they could also gin up more cash by giving streaming access to first-run CBS broadcast episodes (think Survivor, NCIS, FBI, etc) back to Hulu.

Right now the issue is money. I don’t expect Paramount to make any major announcements over the next six months.

That’s why I said I don’t think anything else will get announced until the merger is completed or squashed. If the merger does not happen, Paramount would be smart to go back to Netflix. Give Netflix the international rights to all of Star Trek in exchange for a big influx of cash.

Netflix isn’t necessarily the best partner. What they need is a partner with deep pockets and the space to feature and promote each series. Prime can promote it across Amazon, Apple across their platforms as well.

If that happens, that would be the biggest irony out of all of this. AA/P+ and all these Trek shows only exist because they wanted to be the next Netflix. And now it’s possible when all of this is done they may license their new and old shows to go back to Netflix or maybe Amazon. I said this before, but Prodigy could just be the beginning, especially if it finds long term success on Netflix and they want more shows again.And Paramount+ definitely needs the cash.

Agree with both you of you Denny C. The only hold up with doing more Star Trek is money. Maybe a few years ago when they were spending it like water, it would’ve been green lit right after Picard was done, but right now it’s probably not viable.

And I read somewhere that it was probably more strategic to make less Star Trek on P+ and not more. That there is only so many shows you can have on that most fans will only sign up for,and becomes a net negative if it’s too many. So I won’t be surprised if it’s just SNW, LDS and probably the SFA for the next few years if P+ is still around that long.

Legacy should happen. It seems the fanbase is fractured about DSC. Enthusiasm for S31 is very muted and season 2 of SNW was less well received than the excellent first season.

I want it, but I want Matalas as show runner. And the Okudas, Drexler and as much of those who were involved in Treks golden past involved as possible.

There’s just no need for more Raffi. There wasn’t any need for the Raffi we already had.

I’m guessing at this point that you can easily just cut and paste your “negative on Raffi” posts as a personal time saver? ;-)

I want Legacy. I’ll return to the franchise if Terry comes back. It seems P+ wants to self-destruct by greenlighting one bad idea after another. I used to watch anything with a UFP logo, but SNW put an end to that.

However, Apple has a great Star Trek show that I cant stop watching: For All Mankind.

That’s next on my list to watch, looking forward to it. Heard great things.

If you love Star Trek, this is the show for you.

Danpaine, do it! You got me into Severence, so it’s my turn to get you into For All Mankind. Excellent show and yes probably one of the best Trek-like shows around. But it’s Ronald D. Moore,so no one should be surprised. Just so well written and yes probably better than all the new Trek shows.

I have not watched season 4 yet, but now that it’s over I’m going to subscribe to Apple soon and binge it. I like Apple, but it’s one of the services I don’t need around all year. Now I just subscribe for 1-2 months, binge all the shows and then will cancel again until season 5 of For All Mankind is done. :)

Tiger, I’m glad you gave Severence a try! I really enjoyed S1, Original and offbeat, and created by Ben Stiller of all people. That sounds like a deal, I’ll be jumping into For All Mankind soon.

Yeah definitely give it a try. Now I will warn you, it starts off a bit slow, but it is a slow burn type of show. It’s not super flashy and everything zipping by every 5 minutes like a Marvel movie. It take its time, but you’re getting a grand story that really goes big at the end of every season. So I’m happy you’re giving it a chance! :)

No thanks. It was a fun ending to Picard, and the world needs more Jeri Ryan – but, no thanks to Legacy.

Why not just give us a NEW ship, with NEW characters that we can grow to love? Why must EVERYTHING be Enterprise-G, Worf, Riker, legacy characters.

Just give us a new, LIKEABLE crew, is it really so hard?

Well we got all that with Discovery…and you see how much fans loved that one lol.

Maybe the SFA show will surprise you. I’m guessing that will be all new characters and it takes place 800 years away from the TNG era, so it will be extra hard for Riker to show up (oh who am I kidding, he’ll probably show up for seven episodes in season 2 lol).

We did get that with Discovery you’re right, but I was asking for likeable, well-written characters, not whatever that godawful Discovery crew is.

Well as I said, hopefully the SFA show will be more your thing. I mean it is the next new show and it will probably be the only new show for the next few years. So hopefully it will meet your wishes.

And I’m 99% sure it will take place on a ship and probably won’t be another Enterprise…again, probably. ;)

Dear old dad used to say spit in one hand, wish in the other, which fills up first. Legacy is nothing but a wish.

As with the next movie too, without hope there is no future

Without brand new characters there’s no future either, for Trek itself.

True but there can be too many casts, a lot of my mates are old Trek fans but they wouldn’t go and pay for Paramount +

And hence have missed out on Discovery, Picard and SNW

I feel like out of the TNG crew, so much more could be done with a Worf series and he seems the most youthful of them still.

It’s a known quantity, especially if Patrick Stewart and the TNG folks can kick off season one and make “more-than” cameos. Much less risk than “Starfleet Academy” which I’m sure lots of us could care less about.

Gotta get those cameos in. Legacy, nostalgia, that’s all fans care about.

Count me in as well who really wants the Legacy show! I mean really really wants it! :)

I still feel we will ultimately get it, but it will take time with all the issues going on at Paramount and just the future with streaming in general. But it’s just too much of a no-brainer when so many fans are calling for it. It has a built in premise most people like (its more adventures on another Enterprise, pretty popular setting lol) and most importantly, we’ll be going forward into the 25th century, the biggest appeal for me personally. And more Seven stories is just a bigger bonus.

Just to make clear, I am excited about the Starfleet Academy show, but I would choose Legacy over it just because 25th century Trek interest more than 32nd century Trek. But fine with either.

Yes, always felt Discovery was going too far ahead

I understood it in terms of wanting to do the collapse Federation story line. But I think placing it around the 26th century or something would’ve been more ideal. Still far enough where Riker or Janeway can’t just show up out of the blue but not completely cut off to everything we know either.

That said, I still think the 32nd century has amazing potential and maybe we’ll finally see it done better next season.

Would love to explore the young in Starfleet that just had the Picard’s again compromised resulting in their assimilation them only for Starfleet to eliminate the Titan legacy and hand the Enterprise to someone that honors her Borg legacy and committing genocide. Basically everyone young now has PTSD, probably shot their commanders, destroyed the Excelsior, etc. Can Starfleet recover pre burn?

The fans want it. The viewership numbers from Picard S3 and the internet activity afterwards make it screamingly obvious.

Studios spend millions of dollars trying to figure out what audiences want, and the ST:Legacy audience-in-waiting is screaming its head off.

Be nice if Paramount took the obvious gimme.

The fans don’t want it. Only a small minority want geriatric Trek.

oh poor child

And how did you base that exactly? 🙄

I’m pretty sure the fans already said they want it.

We need this show!

I really do want Legacy to happen, I would love to see Raffi/Worf team up together. Those two definitely had chemistry together. Even Having Jack and Sydney as love interest too, as it was hinted that Jack had feelings for her. I can see these two team up and work together too.

Picard's Michelle Hurd on Star Trek's Legacy and Where Raffi Could Go Next

As she heads to st-sf: trek to san francisco, the actress discusses why star trek is so important..

The last time we saw Michelle Hurd’s Raffaela ‘Raffi’ Musiker was during the finale of Star Trek: Picard on the bridge of the newly christened USS Enterprise-G. And while we have yet to find out what the future holds next for the first officer who is now serving under Captain Seven of Nine, Hurd herself spoke to IGN this week about her hopes for the character, how Star Trek changed her life, and how you can meet her and many other Star Trek legends at this weekend’s ST-SF: Trek to San Francisco convention.

ST-SF: Trek to San Francisco is set to take place at the Hyatt Regency SFO Hotel in San Francisco from March 8-10 and marks a big moment for fans. Alongside taking place at the future home of Starfleet Headquarters, ST-SF: Trek to San Francisco will kick off the return of regional Star Trek cons for Creation Entertainment, the same company that operated over 100 of these types of events per year during its peak in the ‘80s. According to Hurd, this is great news because there really isn’t anything quite like a Star Trek convention.

“One of the things Jonathan Frakes told me about becoming part of the Star Trek family on my first day of Picard Season 1 was, ‘Michelle, just get ready. When this show drops it's unlike any other gig you ever had. You immediately have 10 million families worldwide,’” she laughs. “Because of this, conventions have been phenomenal because I’m able to interact with people and see how profoundly Star Trek affects and unites us.”

Conventions like ST-SF on land are wonderful, but Hurd recently sailed aboard Star Trek: The Cruise and also had a great time. In addition to celebrating the life of the late Star Trek actor Kenneth Mitchell and playing D&D with Anthony Rapp, Wil Wheaton, and Dungeon Master Todd Stashwick, Hurd also had a very special thing happen while hosting a game show.

“One of the first things I had to do on the cruise was host Star Trek Trivial Pursuit,” Hurd said. “I had just gotten the questions moments before I had to get up in front of the 300 people and was a bit worried because I'm dyslexic. I got up and I started to talk and then I just stopped and said, ‘You know what? I'm just going to put the cards on the table. I'm totally dyslexic so you're going to hear me say some words that might sound bumpy, but just be gentle with me, have some grace, and it'll be fine.’

“What’s amazing is that, for the rest of the week, I had so many people come up to me to let me know how much that moment meant to them because they're dyslexic or someone they love is on the spectrum. They said it really made them feel seen and heard to just say it out loud and not be ashamed of it.”

The actress connects those moments to her Star Trek character as well.

“I always say that Raffi is perfectly imperfect,” she continued. “Because really, aren't we all perfectly imperfect? So that was an amazing thing. I feel like the Trek family is such an empathetic one. We all get it. We all get that we're different and unique and interesting, not perfect. We support each other. It got me so emotional during the whole week. I was just like, they're saying thank you for letting us know that you're with us and we're all the same. It was beautiful.”

Gene Roddenberry’s Impact 

Hurd also talked about how Star Trek has changed her life for the better. To help stress her point, she took us all the way back to the beginning.

“Fifty-eight years ago, Roddenberry had some kind of wild crystal ball that he knew that he needed to create something or that we needed to have something created that would hold a mirror up to society, let us see what we're doing, and try to embrace the concept of inclusivity, diversity, and hope for a better tomorrow,” she said. “Who would think that by doing a show, those elements would become so much more enlightened and powerful in your present-day activities? But that's what Star Trek has done for me.

“I’m biracial, and back in the day when it wasn't so popular or cool to be biracial or to have Black and white parents, there were a lot of challenging moments. And my father knew how important it was to have his three Brown girls see themselves represented in this world. And so we, as a family, would sit down and watch the original Star Trek reruns to see Nichelle Nichols’ Uhura on that bridge. She gave us the permission to be bold and brave and say, ‘I'm supposed to be here. I'm allowed to be here.’ So I can only hope that there are some Brown and Black little kids with crazy hair that get to see me and say, ‘I'm here. I'm here in the year 2400 in space with my hair and everything.’"

What the Future May Hold for Star Trek: Legacy

Looking forward, Hurd is just as excited as we all are for the potential and heavily rumored Star Trek: Legacy spin-off series that would theoretically continue the adventures of the Enterprise-G crew and other beloved Star Trek characters in the 25th century. While she has no concrete news on the proposed series, she does have certain hopes for this possible next chapter.

“I absolutely think that Raffi loves Seven of Nine,” Hurd said of the Jeri Ryan character. “I think she would be a happy person to just be on a journey with Seven, whether they're in a relationship or not. And I shouldn't say whether they're in a relationship or not. They are. They're in a relationship because they're in each other's lives.”

She also hopes that Raffi’s addiction backstory will continue to be fleshed out if Legacy moves forward.

“I really want to see how Seven, Raffi, and Jack Crusher navigate the universe, but I also think that it's important to continue to tell the journey of people who are or who have been addicts,” she said. “Because once we have it, we're there forever. What’s a better way to put that pressure on her than to be Number One and know that she has a responsibility not only to her captain and somebody who she cares very deeply for, but to Starfleet as well?

“I think we could also continue to push and explore what it’s like having Seven of Nine as the first queer Star Trek captain without it being the focus. It should just be life and see how we navigate in it. Just like me talking about being dyslexic. I'd love for us to be able to reveal more of the things that people who look like they are presenting as ‘neurotypical normal’ are actually struggling with and going through. I think it would be phenomenal because you'll get an audience that is finally seeing themselves represented.”

We may have to wait to see where Raffi’s adventure actually goes next, but if you find yourself in the San Francisco area this weekend you can chat and even take a picture with Hurd, Ryan, and many more members of the Star Trek family. You can find all the info you need on ST-SF: Trek to San Francisco right here.

For more from the world of Star Trek, check out our chat with Sonequa Martin-Green about becoming Star Trek: Discovery’s Captain Burnham , or our discussion with the Discovery cast about what to expect from the final season .

Adam Bankhurst is a writer for IGN. You can follow him on X/Twitter  @AdamBankhurst  and on  TikTok.

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